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Thursday, September 5, 2013

Italian Gun Grease


Every once in a while, people ask us why we do this.  Spend our hard earned money on guns and gear, just to see if they work, and share that with other shooters.  Beyond that, it's fun, but really, there are times when we are left shaking our heads at the internet and whats out there.  One of the main reasons for starting this blog was to put out real reviews.  It seems like a lot of info online is simply an ad for a product poorly disguised as a review, and this is a product that is a perfect example of this kind of thing.


We recently picked up a few Italian Gun Grease (IGG) Performance Packs for T&E purposes.  When we looked online to see what others had to say, we were disappointed to say the least.

One of the first reviews we read was by Survivorblog.  I admit I haven't really read anything from them, so I read Pat's review of IGG weapons lube, and then went to the IGG homepage and took a look at what they had to say.

Survivorblog basically paraphrased IGG's actual product info, wrapped it in some basic shooter talk, and then sent it downrange to the reader.  This borders on plagiarism, and is dishonest to the reader who wants an honest review of a product before they pay their money for something they have never tried before. 

We're not here to talk smack about anybody, just point out a few things.  If you want to see what we're talking about, go look it up for yourselves, we're not going to link them here.

Now that that's out of the way, what is in the Performance Pack?  A bottle of optics cleaner, a bottle of Carbon Eliminator, and a bottle of Tactical Lube.  Now, some of these bottles have odd claims of "Heat Seeking Molecules" and such, which we aren't too sure about.

So, what did we do?

We cleaned three rifles, a 16" PSA DGI gun, a 16" CMMG DGI gun, and a 20" RGUNS rifle, and got down to business.  The PSA and CMMG were cleaned with Gunzilla, the PSA was lubed with IGG True Grease, their gun grease in a syringe (more on that later), the CMMG was lubed with the Tactical lube after the IGG Carbon Eliminator was applied to the carbon-accruing surfaces (bolt tail, inside the BCG, chamber, interior of the upper).  The RGUNS was simply treated with the lube after being cleaned with Breakfree CLP and Hoppe's.

All three weapons are about to undergo a filthy torture test.  We're talking high round counts, steel cased ammo, rimfire conversions, and general abuse.  We will update with round counts and results as they come in.

Some first impressions:
The Carbon Eliminator is extremely runny, and goes everywhere.  For something that's supposed to break up carbon, and stop it from depositing, this is great.

The lube is slick as hell.  After cleaning out the rifles of previous lubes, the IGG lube is by far slicker than the Wilson Combat Ultimate Weapons Lube we typically use.  So, score one for IGG in the "dry" run.  we'll see what happens when things heat up.

Pics, round counts, and filthy cleaning rags coming soon!

IGG Carbon Eliminator at work: Top Left: 400 rounds of carbon and leading built up on an FSC 556.  Bottom Left: 2 drops of Carbon Eliminator and 20 rounds of 5.56 to blow off the crud.  Main:  Another shot of the gunk before the IGG.

On our last range trip, we passed IGG around to some of the shooters.  One shooter could not get his SKS to run more than 5 rounds at a time.  A little bit of the Tactical Lube (TL) formula on the bolt rails and the SKS ran like a sewing machine the rest of the afternoon.

My TacSol Glock .22 conversion kit chokes on anything other than CCI Mini-Mags.  IGG couldn't get it to run other ammo, but it took it from about 70% reliable to around 90% reliable.  We spent a lot less time clearing jams after slapping on some of the Tactical.

During our testing of a CMMG .22 conversion kit, we noticed a lot of carbon and leading built up on the perpindicular faces of the baffles in a PWS FSC 556.  The first time we cleaned this fouling, it had to be soaked in CLP overnight, and then knocked off the brake with a hammer and a pick.  It was a pain, but the PWS performs so well, we figured we would deal with a little extra cleaning to shoot .22 without swapping the brake out.

Before shooting, we dripped a bit of the carbon cleaner before taking it out to the range.  In the first range session, about 600 rounds, the FSC was so clogged with carbon that the side ports were almost occluded.  In the recent shoot, the Carbon Eliminator (CE) kept the break looking fairly clean during 500 rounds of fire.  Carbon and leading built up, but only around a quarter of what it had been.

Just for giggles, we decided to drip some CE on the brake and fire through some 5.56 to clear out the gun. In 20 rounds, the break was clear of carbon.  Also, in 500 rounds of rimfire, the only failure we had with the TL was a spent casing getting up under the charging handle, which is pretty common for this kit.

So far, we're impressed.


UPDATE:
Use the code: Wren10 at checkout at Italian Gun Grease's web page for 10% off your order!

Check them out here: http://www.italiangungrease.com

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